Some People Will Never Understand
I recently discovered a new comment on an old post...
"I hate american said...
I'm French, so I'll probably use a bad english, but I don't care. Listen, your country have no history, don't know anything about war or misery. But with your 400 years old you try to teach life to other countries. you are all so stupid!! and ridiculous. Your life is made with blood: your land? you stole it! your money: you made it thanks to war! so I can understand that you're a little bit jalouse (according to the fact that our president can eat a bretzell without strangle himself!)
So with my bad english:
Go f*** yourself you're bloody bastard, f***ing piece of sh**.
And especialy: VIVE LA FRANCE!"
My response...In The Loop Welcomes comments from anyone living anywhere.
I am not an expert on French or U.S. history but my knowledge empowers me to express the following...The United States of America has existed for aproximately 240 years.In this time The U.S. has freed, liberated and saved more lives than all other countries combined.If I recall correctly there are a multitude of United States Servicemen and women burried in France.Hitler had just about taken over all of Europe and if not for American and other brave soldiers the French may very well be speaking German today.
People choose to forget attacks leading up to 911 like the bombing of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania,The U.S.S. Cole attack,the first attempt on the World Trade Center,and who can forget the Aquille Lauro attack where the victim in a wheelchair,Leon Klinghoffer was shot and tossed overboard wheelchair included.The man behind the Aquille Lauro attack Abbu Abbas was arrested in Baghdad,Iraq on April 13,2003 by U.S. Forces in Iraq.
On 911 we were attacked and thousands were killed.After we invaded Afghanistan, it is a known fact that individuals fighting against coalition forces were crossing the border into Iraq and receiving medical attention.After getting medical attention they crossed back and returned to fight coalition forces as have done individuals released from the Guantanamo Prison.Zarkawi a known terrorist received harbor in Iraq and remains a target.President George W. Bush clearly advised all those harboring,funding,supporting...terrorist will be held to answer.
The U.N. peacekeeping troops raping who? The oil for food scandal what? The only thing most people seem to understand lately is war for oil and evil americans.If this is the level of brain power you posses I will make this simple...Recall your day's as a child and the lunchroom bully.If you gave him your apple or lunch money once...then it was understood you were doomed....however if on his first attempt to intimidate you,he received a blow square accross his jaw.Then it was understood by him and the rest of the chumps in the cafeteria...you mess with me...I'm going to open a can of "whoop ass" on you.As for America...I hope the message is loud and clear...kill our citizens,support,harbor and assist those who wish to wreak havoc upon US and you will be dealt with.
posted by cyouincourt007 at 9:11 PM
10 Comments:
Well put cyouincourt.
WTG Larry, you tell him.
America can be compared to the police. You are going to have those who love us and those who hate us. Those who do wrong are usually the ones on the hate side. Or perhaps those who are relatives of the person doing wrong. We can also be compared to a big brother. We step in and help those who are being bullied, just like the big brother you call when someone bigger than you wants to beat you up. But you know, sometimes people who are being helped will even express hatred toward us. I think of it like sick children who don't like when a parent takes them to the doctor and he gives them medicine. It may be for their own good, but they really don't like to take it. When all is said and done however, the result is that there comes healing.
america saves and deliver ??? hahaha only american people think that, i can tell you that in other countries, you are considered as what you are : a country who think that she's got all the rights, that god is with her ...
you save people lifes ? only if there's profit in there, and every time that america come with his army to "give liberty", there thousand of civilians death.
what about guantanamo where there is criminals but innocent people that have NO right but to shut up ?
what about the convention of geneva that you decided to ignore because it wasn't in your interesst to follow them ?
no one ask you to help, and when you help, it's worst than before. go home and let us choose what we have to do, you are REALLY not an example to follow america.
my god hasn't got a gun ...
to compare america has a big brother reminds me the theory of the missionary in africa (the worst racist that have ever existed) : the theory of the father, the big brother, saying that other country are kids is an easy way to take back their rights.
i think that your brain needs to be reactivated ... stop watching cnn or fox, open a real newspaper and when i decide to help someone, try to understand his culture and what he eventually excepts of you.
Thank You For Posting Your Thoughts...
Last I remember Terrorists never signed the Geniva convention, and don't abide by it's rules.Why does everyone ignore all the innocents brutally beheaded...why are the maniacs chopping people's heads off the heros...Yet when unintentional killing of civilians occurs at Americas hands we do care,we take steps to avoid such incidents and do not target civilians....however the people chopping off heads in Iraq are targetting all civilians, men,women and children alike....
as for "my god doesn't have a gun"...get over it...read your old testament and tell me theres not war in there.As for understanding their culture...what the hell is there to understand...they have been targetting and killing Americans by the thousands and u want to understand them? That ideology is at the heart of why they were so emboldened under the Clinton administration...and thousands died.We pour Billions upon billions of foreign aid into other countries feeding millions and were the devil?...This country spoke in election 2004 sending the message we want and are proud to have a leader who will take action and not sit down for tea and crippets.He may be an "illiterate bafoon" in some sense but he's certainly got the "cojones" to stand up to the assclowns who fight for the rights of merciless terrorists and speak not for the thousands killed by these animals.Where is their day in court?As for the "innocent" in gitmo...look up how many we have released and caught once again fighting against our forces...They are enemy combatents plain and simple.
(i do not speak english very well, i wish that you can read me)
terrorist didn't signed the convention of geneva ... but you (america)did. you can't sign something and change your mind when you need it.
a "maniac chopping head of heroes" as rights. and i would like to know what you call a heroe ... a soldier who comes in another country to "free" this country and to impose his personnal conviction is a hero for you ... what about the people that are living in the country you invade and that just defend themselfs ?
How can they react when they see civilian death (you say that you do care when there is civil casualties ... but your army is the biggest in the world and also the one that cause the most civilian death during operation), or when the see that your soldiers are using torture to interrogate prisonners (even if maybe 50 % of them are terrorist), with dogs and sexual humiliation ?
war do not give all right, and if you place yourself as a civilised country, you must apply the principles that you defend. u dont do that ? you are the same as terrorists .
in the old testament, there IS war, but read it, not like an animal but really and tell me when jesus or god is the cause of the war ? i dont care about religion, and we live in a violent world, but using the religion as a support for the war is really not the right way. when bush says god saves america, he appropriates himself a god that is ... hum , love and pardon ... for american, for frend, columbians, and iraquians even if they are terrorists.
you say : "they have been targetting and killing Americans by the thousands and u want to understand them?"
... my god ... ask yourself WHY they have killed these people.
ask yourself WHO killed these people, ask yourself HOW MANY YOU killed of them before.
in europa, when the 9.11 happened, we were all horrified, and at first it was unbelievable ... but its the answer of the american politic ... and it is totally LOGICAL. they act like you acted since the 50 past years ...
you talk about bush ... this monkey is seen in all other country other than america as a dangerous guy. he gives the other country a really negative vision of america and this is something you are gonna pay someday (note a threat but a constatation).
this is because of guys like him that the 911 has happened.
like with saddam hussein : at first, america has used him, giving him money to make war, sending him weapons.
and when what has to happen happens (this man become someone powerfull), america send soldiers and arrest him, treating him like if he was the horriblest man on earth ... this man was created BY america ... wtf ?
and when you say : "As for the "innocent" in gitmo...look up how many we have released and caught once again fighting against our forces...They are enemy combatents plain and simple.
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what does your "innocent" mean ? it has been prooved that there is innocent there. and even if they were not, they have rights, even an animal has rights ...
i dont say that we must let them go, but that if we have prisoners, we must treat them has prisoners, there is a law, and we must follow it, not changing it when we need to.
you seem surprised that soldiers are killing americans (traduction : soldiers is what you call terrorists, they do the same as your soldiers, but you prefer call the terrorist, its more simple for your black or with brain) ... but you do the same with them ... the only difference is that YOU go in their country years before them.
and you dont have the right to. stay home, dont try to teach the world how he must live (...your way, not ours) and no one will kill your "beautifull heroes".
Like the title says...some people will never understand...but a bit of wrestling in the mud with the pigs isn't too bad, hehehe so here gos...
A)My original message was in response to an "I hate America" Comment...my response gives you my perspective as does your comments give me insight on how you folks around the world see things.......Im glad this site reaches people all around the world opening the gates of communication.
You folks see it your way ,and we see things in a different manner.I already knew that when I titled the post like I did.I believe long after each of us is gone from this earth history will look back and note this as a defining moment in Americas history.We will not bend ,we will not break,we are founded on principles of freedom and liberty and have been a beacon of light for all the world.Our military does not only fight wars,these heros rush to the rescue during world tragedies and events as evidenced by the Tsunami disaster.My purpose is not to divide us into democrats and republicans or Americans and Frenchmen but to allow us all a median of communication.If you choose to hate and despise us that's your problem and a product of years of misinformation and brainwashing.
A)we did sign the geneva convention,but if we signed a cease fire that was being ignored what would the purpose of our honoring it be?
B)What about the mass graves and the chemical weapons used on Iraqis,the people in Iraq who can tell you the stories of all their families in the torture chambers...the main stream media only tells u the bad never the good happening like the school,womens rights,children having a future
C)I cannot justify accidental deaths of civilians but only tell you we do feel bad,the soldiers and American regret such incidents.
The torture with dogs and womens clothing incidents caused outraged us too...we do not support such activites and realize they do not reflect all our soldiers or all our troops...unfortunately I have seen the Beheading videos and theres no comparison...these animals are using machetes to cut necks off ...they are not doing a one swing chop as is the custom muslim way to do it.
D) Im not a very religious person and for me it's not about that,I know several muslim americans and they are great people...the problem is with extremist fanatics who are killing more muslims than we are.
E)I know the world was with us after 911 and it's unfortunate how things have changed.I wish it was not so but we are doing what we feel neccessary to protect our people and make the world a safer place.Look at what they did in Spain, that was terrible and unacceptable.
F)Many Americans agree with you on the issue of GITMO prisoners,they too want to see them have their day in court...it is currently an issue pending in our court system...I don't want to assume their all guilty but until I can identify them,and take measures to secure their not a threat, releasing them could have a disasterous result.
A soldier fights a war and does not target civilians and set up bombs to kill students outside schools,a terrorist sees no difference in gender,age or affiliation.They seek to wreak havoc and terrorize everyone.
Thanx for all your comments and keep them coming.
communism hahaha : who the fuck talked about this shit ?
learn to read and fuck off.
continue to believe that america is the country of freedom.
for the rest of the world, you are a country were you cant do real votations, a country that is the cause of lot of wars, that only helps when there's and economic interest and who's governement is particulary barbaric and cynical (and i don't speak about the fact that you are christians fanatics, like the one you fight, but christians ...).
when i see u speaking of democraty or liberty or even peace, it make me laugh.
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